....ADVERTISER NEWS ARTICLE
DECEMBER 14th 1948....
I will keep it as brief as possible and will be adding to the content over the next few days.
An earlier post covered some of the information about the Hay Internment Camp banknotes, here is an additional piece of currency, it's a 5 Shilling coin from Hay. but I believe, after the Dunera Boys time:
The 8th Employment Company was formed mainly for ex-internees and 'Enemy Aliens', Tibor was not a member but another person of interest was and he was associated with the George Marshall case in 1945. His name was Helmut Hendon.
THE DUNERA NOMINAL ROLLThere are a number of texts written about the Dunera Boys and their time in Australia. The link below is to a comprehensive list of names of those who arrived, some disembarking in Melbourne and others in Sydney. Most of the Melbourne men went to 'TATURA' internment camp whilst a smaller number I believe went to Loveday Internment Camp in the Riverland of South Australia, these were generally thought of as the 'hard cases'.
Most of the Loveday German internees had been captured in IRAN and arrived in Adelaide on the Rangitiki, there were 478 men and 16 women and children onboard with the women and children sent to Tatura Internment Camp in Victoria.
The document also contains information on the occupations of these men.
Importantly, many of these men were to later change their names. That's yet another list that I will make available shortly.
Please note that whilst most internees were released by early 1942, according to records, Tibor was not released into Melbourne until 1944.
This is the
*(For those not aware, Clive worked with me on a number of projects and did a great job. He is not to be confused with the various trolls that exist in the Somerton Man space who use his name, one, for example is the Clive J Turner on the Cipher Mysteries blog who is quite definitely not the Clive Turner who worked with me on the various projects. I will leave it to followers to make their own judgments about why someone would do that.)
Here's a very interesting link that dates back to an October 2016 Post, in there is a summation of an interview that I was privileged to do with an old Dunera Boy, 'BERN' plus some fascinating information about TOCUMWAL a major RAAF base that had quite a number of 8th Employment Company men:
ReplyDeletehttps://tamamshud.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-somerton-man-camp-pell-interview.html
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ReplyDeleteJust in case you were wondering.....
ReplyDeleteGeorge Adams (Teltscher) is Dr Tibor Káldor (Schön)'s first cousin once removed's husband's sister's husband's brother's wife's sister's husband's first cousin once removed.
Dr Tibor Káldor (Schön)
→
Gyula Schön
his father
→
Janka / Johanna Schön (Steinitz)
his mother
→
adolf steinitz
her brother
→
Olga Halapi (Steinitz)
his daughter
→
Oszkár Halápi (Herzfeld)
her husband
→
Rosa Herzfeld (Halápi (Herzfeld))
his sister
→
Friedrich Oskar Detsinyi (Detsiny)
her husband
→
Dávid Victor Detsinyi
his brother
→
Roza Detsinyi (Bernstein)
his wife
→
Malvine Malowan (Bernstein)
her sister
→
Edmund Malowan
her husband
→
Marie Malowan (Goldschmidt)
his mother
→
Johanna "Hanni" Teltscher (Goldschmidt)
her sister
→
Wilhelm Teltscher
her son
→
George Adams (Teltscher)
his son
Source: [URL="https://www.geni.com/path/Dr-Tibor-K%C3%A1ldor+is+related+to+George-Adams?from=6000000173240028219&path_type=inlaw&to=6000000114291630950"]Dr Tibor Káldor is related to George Adams[/URL]
Did they know that they were related, when on the SS Dunera, or interned together? Probably doubtful.
Are there more pages of the Dunera nominal roll. It jumps from page 399 to 404. My Father Gerhard Kaczynski would be on one of those missing pages.
ReplyDeleteMichael, I will see if I can find him for you and post here.
ReplyDeleteMichael, I am still looking for the missing pages of list, in the meantime I don't know whether you have visited them but this AWM page has some photos and general information:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/dunera-boys
Back again, here's where you will find the full embarkation list but I don't think that it has been digitised as yet:
ReplyDeletehttps://victoriancollections.net.au/items/59c32f6121ea8f0ecc1f3a68
Will keep looking for you.
Michael, I am pushed for time today, this PDF has a list of all resources and links for the Dunera Boys files, the second link is to all of the boys who may have changed their names:
ReplyDelete1. Resources: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4FgVwct8qNUaFhWS0ZEcUhNeXc/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-B5RXJQXYFifcG-sHka91vg
2. Name Changes: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E-a6vc4Sldd_P8PDL6_FSwDN4LRpeZ6m/view?usp=sharing
Important one Michael, it is held in the UK archives and it deals with discrepancies in the original Embarkation list:
ReplyDeletehttps://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2455128
Have to dash..