Monday 8 January 2024

TAMAMSHUD, THE SOMERTON MAN's DNA. A CASE OF CONTAMINATION AND DESTRUCTION?....VIDEOS, UPDATED

 

INTRODUCTION:

As is well known, in July 2022, Professor Abbot of Adelaide University made the claim that he had been able to identify the Somerton Man as a Carl 'Charlie' Webb  We were informed that had retrieved and sent a single hair shaft some 50 mm in length from the plaster bust (made by the late Mr' Paul Lawson) to a specialist laboratory, ASTREA,  a company which was leading the field in the analysis of rootless hair shafts from which they extracted useable mtDNA.

Mr. Lawson was a well-known, well-liked, and greatly respected Taxidermist at the South Australian Museum and it was he who was called upon by SA Police to create a plaster bust of the Man found on Somerton Beach on December 1st, 1948. I had the privilege of having numerous conversations with Mr. Lawson at his request and many of the issues raised in this post stem from those discussions.

THE BODY & THE AUTOPSY, THE DENTAL CHART

The body of a man was found on Somerton Beach on the morning of December 1st, 1948, the body was pronounced dead at Royal Adelaide Hospital and transported to the Adelaide City morgue. There is a chain of evidence that links the finding of the body and its subsequent removal to the morgue.

An autopsy was confirmed on the following day at 7.30 am, Dr Dwyer a Government Pathologist, performed an autopsy on the body of the man. Importantly, in that process, Dr.Dwyer made a notated sketch of the man's dental chart, it showed that the man had 18 missing teeth. The condition is known as OLOGODONTIA and not Anodontia as has been mistakenly claimed.

With regards to the exhumed remains, firstly the teeth must match the chart below and secondly, the DNA from those teeth might be a good indication of who the Somerton Man might be. But it is not a certainty, we may never know the true identity of the Somerton Man.




Here is the image of the Dental Chart registered as Exhibit C 8 in the Inquest Files 1948:


The image below is a copy of part of the statement made by Dr.Dwyer in his evidence to the Coroner ion July 1948 and it refers specifically to the teeth and the dental chart:



You will read that Dr.Dwyer describes the missing teeth and the fact that he handed the chart which was in his handwriting and the same chart that he had handed to Constable Sutherland. Note in particular that Dr Dwyer specifically states that '..anyone looking at him in the ordinary way, if he were to laugh, would notice the teeth were missing..'  

It was this part of Dr Dwyer's statement that Professor Abbott totally ignored in one of his earlier claims, replacing it with his view that the man had anodontia, the same condition that Robin, Jestyn's son had, this was therefore a complete fabrication. by the Professor to support his 'Love Child' theory.

We now have yet another fabrication published on the Tomsbytwo blog by a regular commenter there who denies the authenticity of the document and therefore Dr. Dwyer's statement. Peter Bowes, the author of that blog, should know better than to publish deliberately false and misleading information. It remains to be seen how long it will stay there. Or perhaps we will get another round of wordy, incomprehensible obfuscation as per the master of such, John Sanders.

Personally, I have had more than enough of dealing with trolls, backstabbers, and ne'er do wells since starting this blog 11 years ago so I will leave this discussion at that.

THE EMBALMING PROCESS

On December 10th, 1948, another well-known and well-respected man, a local undertaker, Mr. Laurie Elliot was given the task of embalming a body believed to be the body found on the beach at Somerton. There is no chain of evidence that includes the identification of that body to Mr Elliot. As part of the embalming process, Mr. Elliot was contracted to subsequently visit the morgue where the body was kept to make sure that the body was kept in good condition and to top up the various chemicals. Formaldehyde was among the chemicals used in the embalming process. The video below shows in some detail the process and more recently used to embalma a deceased person.

A warning, this video may contain content that would be distressing to some.:

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THE BUST & THE HAIR


As part of the process of making the bust, Mr'Lawson smothered the hair on the man's head and eyebrows with mortuary soap. This technique was designed to prevent any hair from getting entangled and torn from its roots in the head of the subject man. in the plaster mix which could lead to damage of the plaster.

You will notice that, in the eyebrows in particular, you can see the way that the plaster has formed itself around the soap-covered hair.

Mortuary soap is hospital grade and to this day, such soap contains Sodium Hypochlorite better known as bleach. This chemical is known to destroy DNA and in fact, is used in Forensic Labs to wash down surfaces specifically to destroy any possible cross contamination including from DNA samples.

We can conclude with reasonable certainty that the DNA in the hair of the man who was subjected to the mortuary soap treatment would have been destroyed

Human Hair in Plaster Busts
The use of human hair in the making of plaster busts was common practice in those days, there are many examples of companies advertising human hair for sale in South Australia during the 1940s. Hair was routinely collected from hairdressing establishments, processed, and sorted before its sale either for wigs or for use by modelers. This hair was treated and then used to strengthen the structure of a plaster bust and it was also said that it gave a smoother finish to the object.

This raises another question regarding the source of the hair found by Professor Abbot.


3D LINE LASER


 In 2011, Professor Abbot and his students organized the creation of a 3D image of the Somerton Man bust. This task involved the purchase of a kit known as DAVID which was a 3 mW 'line laser'. This camera and kit took many images of the bust from numerous angles around the bust itself.


It is true to say that a 3mW laser is not particularly powerful but much depends on the way that the 'line laser' was configured including its pulse rate and focus. It is regarded as very possible that we see used in the above video could have destroyed any DNA on the surface of the bust or on any protruding hairs as seen in the close-up image below. It appears to me that the hairs are thinner where they enter the plaster and wider towards the visible ends. You can also see that they are of varying lengths


THE HAIR SAMPLE

The image above is of a human hair from a follicle to a tapered or rounded tip which is visible.



This image shows a close-up of hair found on the Somerton Man bust. Whilst you can see 3 complete hairs two do not appear to be rounded or tipped. They have been cut.

Below you can see an image of the same hair alongside a marked-up image




The image on the left shows the original photo, on the right you can see that 3 of the hairs have been numbered as follows:

1. This hair is neither rounded or tapered, it appears to have been cut

2. Difficult to be certain but hair number 2 may be tipped

3. Hair number 3 also does not appear to be tapered or rounded, it appears to have been cut

THE ISSUE WITH THE HAIR IMAGES

There is a major issue with these hairs and the way they are set into and from the plaster.

Firstly, the outer surface of the bust was in close contact with the inner surface of the mold made by Mr.Lawson.

Next, the inner surface of the mold was pressed tightly against the man's head and in particular the hair on his head. 

It is that hair that protruded from the man's head, tip first, which, if we correctly understand the claim, was caught up in the plaster as the bust was made and, consequently as the plaster bust dried, those protruding hairs when the mold was broken away, were torn from the man's scalp


The hair that was torn from his scalp was torn tip first, and as a consequence, when the plaster bust was cast it would have grabbed those protruding hairs' root or thicker end first. The thicker root ends would have been buried in the plaster bust, and the hairs that we should see would have their thinner, tapered ends showing. Look closely at the image above, they do not show tapered tips, we see the thicker root ends in the image above.

We can reasonably assume that the hairs that we see in the image did not come from the head of the man of whom the bust was made. It is possible that they came from human hair used to strengthen the plaster bust.

On the question of DNA and the hair sample, the source link below clearly states that the requirement for DNA analysis is 5 individual hairs. Only one hair shaft was used and that no longer exists.

The same source makes it clear that you cannot identify an individual from mtDNA yet that is what Professor Abbot has apparently done.


CONCLUSION:
In conclusion, in this post, we see that there is evidence that the hair originally on the head of the man of whom the bust was made, could not have contained any DNA due to{

  1. The mortuary soap and its sodium hypochlorite are known to destroy DN
  2. Formaldehyde was applied repeatedly over 3 months also known to destroy DNA
  3. The use of a line laser, albeit low-powered, could potentially have damaged or destroyed any DNA on the surface of the bust or in the protruding hairs.


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21 comments:

  1. They won't be interested in what you find

    They didn't want anyone to know
    who he really was in 1948
    and they still don't

    It was decided in 1948 he would be Carl Webb

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  2. There maybe some truth in what you say. It could be, for example, that a lot of people would stand to lose a great deal if the truth were to be told. The challenge that you have is that all you have put forward is words and nothing about how you arrived at your conclusion neither have you attempted to substantiate any of what you say. Do that and you become relevant which would be in stark contrast to others in this space.

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  3. Geraldine. My position regarding Carl Webb is that I do not believe that he is the Somerton Man, there are so many questionable aspects and so much doubt surrounding the whole DNA issue and in addition there is the ear shape and facial appearance just not matching.
    Whether he was in some way connected to the case, I really don't know.
    One thought was that Carl Webb's face was the one Jestyn expected to see Jestyn when she viewed the bust but, as Paul Lawson had used the post autopsy photos to model the face, that is the face she saw and it apparently distressed her a great deal.

    Then of course there is the whole matter of the code page, the torn slip and the Verse 70 inscription copy of the Rubaiyat. All of which are critical elements and all of which have been studiously ignored by the self appointed gurus for the past ten years with this blog being the sole exception.

    The Coroner may or may not provide the answers.

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  4. Did the Professor take any pics of the last hair strand he had? The one he sent to Astrea?

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    1. Not aware of any photos taken of the specific hair that was sent for analysis. It's a good question, on the one hand, you would think that given its importance you would photograph it for the records and to maybe show the process of handling it. On the other hand, it is just a human hair and it could be any human hair.

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  5. It’s going to be disappointing if they announce him to be Carl Webb with all the arrows, evidence, and all the research pointing to otherwise. I hope it’s someone else just to prove the attention seeking professor wrong and the rabbit hole is going to get dug deeper.

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  6. Agreed, it would be disappointing. One thing is for certain though, the truth cannot be destroyed and you cannot escape reality even though there have been many failed efforts by others over the years in this space to do just that. A quote from Churchill:

    'United wishes and good will cannot overcome brute facts,’ Churchill wrote in his War Memoirs. ‘Truth is incontrovertible. Panic may resent it. Ignorance may deride it. Malice may distort it. But there it is.’

    This blog has proven the truth time and time again and will keep doing just that until the penny drops.

    Thanks for your comment, I appreciate it very much

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  7. I prefer the Elvis Presley quote:
    Truth is like the sun
    You can shut it out for a time
    but it ain't goin' away

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  8. Hey Mr.C. Was the hair sample that the prof organised complete with the root? Only one of the gurus, (Steve?) on the gossip blog says it was but I thought it wasn't?

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  9. Hello,
    Interesting comment, everything I have read says that it was a rootless hair shaft that somehow survived the chemicals associated with the embalming process. I noted at the time that no mention was made of the sodium hypochlorite contained in the mortuary soap that Mr. Lawson used to plaster down the hair on the head of the man to prevent that hair getting entangled with the plaster mix. Sodium Hypochlorite destroys DNA.
    So, the answer is no, the hair sample was a rootless shaft 50mm in length according to the Professor and that's why they sent it to Astrea Forensics. Here's the link:

    https://www.astreaforensics.com/new-blog/somerton-man-australias-oldest-cold-case-solved-with-dna-from-a-single-hair

    And I took the liberty of visiting the other blog and Steve's comments:

    I repeat myself: “The hair sent for analysis was formaldehyde free and was taken by hair forensic specialist and Uni of Adelaide postgraduate student Janette Edson from the bust by sliding out a few hairs with roots on from the middle of a cluster that wasn’t touching the plaster directly.”

    Seems that your guru got it wrong.

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  10. A follow up re the rootless hair sample. Here are the comments made by Professor Abbot on the IEEE website:

    In 2022, at the suggestion of Colleen Fitzpatrick, a former NASA employee who had trained as a nuclear physicist but then became a forensic genetics expert, I sent a hair sample to Astrea Forensics, a DNA lab in the United States. This was our best hair-root sample, one that I had nervously guarded for 10 years. The result from Astrea came back—and it was a big flop.

    "Seemingly out of options, we tried a desperate move. We asked Astrea to analyze a 5-centimeter-long shaft of hair that had no root at all. Bang! The company retrieved 2 million SNPs. The identity of the Somerton Man was now within our reach."

    LINK TO ARTICLE HERE:
    https://spectrum.ieee.org/somerton-man

    Note that the Professor in the article is extremely detailed in his description and timing of events. For some reason though, he does not mention where the hair shaft that he sent to Astrea came from nor when it was taken. An oversight perhaps,.

    Don't feel too bad Steve H, even the best of us make mistakes at times.

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  11. The whole discussion surrounding the issue of the 50mm hair shaft is quite remarkable in that there really hasn’t been that much discussion about it. Certainly it’s been questioned here and I think JS has thrown it up on the CM site but no one took him up on it. It’s as if there’s some sort of unspoken rule regarding the issue.
    I’d like to add another to the list of questions already posed and it relates to the trace metals found in samples of the hair back in 2014. To accounts the samples were quite small in size but sufficient to identify, amongst other metals, the presence of lead. The results supported an assumption that the man had been exposed to a level of lead many times, (5 times in one estimate by Nick Pelling) the norm around 2 weeks before his death. A valuable snapshot of the condition of the man’s hair back in 2014 which nicely coincides, if I’m not mistaken with the finding of the fabulous 50 mm sample used by Professor Abbot to confirm his theory that Carl Webb was the Somerton Man. It’s a bit like a fingerprint really.

    Surely this would have been an ideal opportunity for Astrea Forensics to examine a small portion of the large 50mm sample and thus be in a position to confirm or otherwise that the 50mm sample came from the plaster bust? Perhaps they weren’t asked or maybe they were.

    It really is a question worth serious consideration. What say you JS?

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  12. Totally agree, there’s been hardly any critical discussion on the claims and especially not surrounding the hair sample. If there had been we might have got to this point sooner and who knows what we might have come across. Better late than never I suppose.

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  13. Realistically, an analysis showing the trace metals is the only way that the 50 mm hair sample can be proven to have come from the plaster bust. To my understanding that original 50mm hair sample no longer exists and consequently the opportunity to prove the source of that sample also no longer exists. If the trace metal analysis was carried out by Astrea on that 50mm sample then the results really should be published. Those results would either prove or disprove the Professor’s case.

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  14. A large slice of humble pie on the menu! But who for?

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  15. Smart :) Fair enough and you are right. If the analysis was asked for then you wouldn't think there would be any problem in publishing it. That being the case and, given the analysis matches that from 2014 then the humble pie would be mine and professor Abbott would have his proof positive that the hair came from the bust and that hair was used to identify Carl Webb. However there is till one hurdle left and that is to prove that Carl Webb is the Somerton Man and the only way that can be proven is by matching the dental chart shown in the post above.

    If the trace metal analysis was not asked for and not supplied. that's a whole different problem. I would find it difficult to believe that a learned man, a Professor used to digging deep and being scrupulously thorough, would not have asked for that final, crucial piece of information that would absolutely nail this part of the case so neatly.

    This is one piece of evidence that can be thrashed out ahead of the Coroners Finings, indeed the Coroner, I would think would be most interested in the question.

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  16. Please read the update in the post above regarding the dental chart and Dr.Dwyers evidence in relation to that chart.

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  17. Must be getting close to decision time in Adelaide. Seems to have been a little backpedaling on a few blogs, one being close to the famed Professor. I think that there has to be a few glitches in the investigation, somethings not going to plan. Any news that you’re aware of?

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  18. No news that I know of. My view remains the same. Carl Webb is not the Somerton Man.

    The Police brief was to identify the exhumed remains in the belief that those remains were in fact those of the Somerton Man.

    The first step then would be to match the dental chart of the body from the beach taken by Dr Dwyer and which he confirmed in his statement to the coroner. If that chart does not match the chart from the exhumed remains, then the remains are not those of the Somerton Man.

    Next, given Paul Lawson’s comments regarding the skull of body from which he made the plaster bust, there would need to be a match between the dna from the teeth and dna taken from a bone, {thigh?) from the body. If both the dental chart and the DNA are positive, then the remains are those of the Somerton Man. If not, then that is the end of the story if and until other compelling evidence comes forward at some time in the future.

    The other consideration is the question of whether the remains are those of Carl Webb. To verify that, the DNA from the body must conclusively match the DNA of Carl Webb, That will be difficult given that as far as I am aware, the single hair shaft used by Professor Abbot and Astrea Forensics, no longer exists. That is further complicated by the fact that the Professor in his IEEE article did not state where and when that sample was taken

    Add to this the apparent, clear difference in the appearance of the Somerton Man and Carl Webb plus the opinion given early on in the peace by the two forensic scientists involved in the case who both thought it possible that the Somerton Man may never be identified, and there’s your most likely answer.

    In the end the decision will be made by the Coroner based on the evidence an statements he reviews. I have no reason to doubt that SAPOL and the forensics team will do a thorough job.

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  19. PAT,
    Might be an idea to check out if Tibor Kaldor also got a job at Red Point Tool Co. I think he was also released into Melbourne but will need to check the date. In August 1948 he was employed at Meyer Mfr Co. Little Lonsdale Street. There may be a link with Red Point Tools Co but not certain.
    Here’s a link to more about Tibor:
    https://tamamshud.blogspot.com/2017/07/somerton-man-tibor-kaldor-new.html

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  20. WHERE IT"S AT
    Some musings on the current status of the Exhumed Remains.
    Given that the published photograph that is purported to be of Carl Webb is in fact Carl Webb, then I do not believe that Carl Webb is the Somerton Man, his appearance is quite different and the ear shape is not a match by a long stretch.
    The recent demonstrations of how the code page and other docs in the case contained microcode proves that the SOmerton Man case is an espionage case. There is a post coming shortly that will expand on that matter,

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