STILL IMAGE OF JAW AND TEETH. THE TEETH DON'T MATCH THE ORIGINAL DENTAL CHART FROM THE AUTOPSY:
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The pic was taken from a promotional piece from ABC TVs Australian Story due to broadcast this coming Monday evening, 6th. September. 2021. |
It is not made clear in the video whether the jaw bone shown came from the body they exhumed from the grave of the Somerton Man in May this year. Note that Det Supt Bray's comment at the time of the exhumation was that the remains were in excellent condition.
If the jaw is in fact from the exhumed remains, then there are some further questions to be asked because, as you can see in the dental chart below, the arrangement of the teeth in the jaw bone image above does not match that in the dental chart made by Dr. Dwyer at the autopsy. If the jaw in the picture is not from the remains then hopefully we will see the actual jaw in the programme when it airs.
Note that the numbered teeth in the chart below are the missing teeth. In the jaw image above, there are molar teeth where they shouldn't be and front teeth are missing when they shouldn't be.
Here's the promotional clip, you will see what appears to be first an upper left arm bone and then a lower jaw showing a number of teeth missing.
Warch this space....
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ORIGINAL POST
JUNE 1ST 2021:
Below is a video, it isn't about the Somerton Man as such but it is about the exhumation of a number of sets of remains and it shows the process used to categorise and optimise the information gleaned from those remains.
The subject goes back to the 1500s and relates to the discovery of the remains of 100 individuals in York. If you have an interest in this kind of forensic examination then you really should watch this documentary.
Just hope that Paul Lawson's concerns about the state of the skull that he'd worked with don't turn out to be founded
ReplyDeleteA good point, I think that what he saw and spoke about is a concern. Still no mention of the dental chart or anything else for that matter. I do know that it can take some weeks for the scientists to complete their work.
ReplyDeleteHere we are, 10 months in and South Australia heading for an election. To some accounts this election will see a change of Government from Liberal, who saw fit to allow the exhumation, to Labor who, during their term in office, held a very different view.
ReplyDeleteThe caretaker period saw most things put on hold which may have impacted progress on the examination of the Somerton Man's remains. That, of course, depends on whose remains they are proven to be. The question of the dental chart and the statements of Paul Lawson when I interviewed him and in which he clearly stated that the skull of the man of whom he had made the plaster bust, had been removed and thoroughly cleaned at sometime after the autopsy. Having witnessed autopsies in the past, the process did not involve cleaning of the skull to the extent described by Paul.
It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.
As far as I am aware, no one has broached the topic of the Somerton Man's teeth as they may relate to his whereabouts during WW2. Most seem to be totally enamoured with the notion that Carl Webb was the Somerton Man when there is no definitive evidence to support the claim. This blog supports the view that Webb is not the Somerton Man based on the absence of any resemblance between the photographs as shown at the top of this page. It must be said that the photographs we have are very grainy and the ones put forward by the ABC have been heavily photoshopped which immediately discounts their value as an identification matching method.
ReplyDeleteThe only way in which proof of the identity of the exhumed remains can be had is via the DNA and the dental chart taken by Dr Dwyer at the autopsy in December 1948, full stop. Bear in mind that the purpose of the current police investigation is to ascertain the identity of the exhumed remains and whether or not they are those of the Somerton Man.
To the original point of this comment, what if any, way can it be shown what the man was up to during WW2? We have previously discussed the likelihood of hs being exposed to radium or perhaps another form of radiation and they are bot still issues to be resolved one way or the other.
Recently I came across some information regarding the treatment of POWs in German POW camps during WW2. Dental health in particular was a real problem. In fact in one article it specifically mentions the treatment for dental problems was extraction in most cases. I found this article as the result of watching an episode of Antiques Roadshow on ABS iView from a place called Sefton Park in Liverpool.. It was a segment about a man who had some sketches of his father that were done in WW2, the man had a number of missing teeth in one sketch and his son related that when his father arrived home from Germany, he had no teeth at all. the Germans as most would know were fasticuous record keepers and apparently many records are still kept at UK Archives. It could be that our man was a POW or perhaps an internee for that matter. POWs of the Japanese received very little in the way of treatment, physical or dental so that would be a less likely source of information. It might be the case that he was not an Allied POW.
The question is, will this information if it exists, be in a searchable database?