WHAT'S IN A NAME?
On the first occasion that Alf Boxall met Jestyn at the Clifton Gardens Hotel, she was with another girl who was also introduced as a nurse.
This girl accompanied Tom Musgrave, and her name, as mentioned by Tom, was said to be either Joy Erwin or Irvin. There was no surname given for the girl 'Jestyn'.
Stuart Littlemore, in his notes, described the discussions with Tom Musgrave and how he, Stuart, had followed up on both names with the RNSH; no match was found for either Joy or Jestyn as graduates or in the Register of Nurses. (An interesting aside is that Jess Harkness did not complete her training as a Nurse until the early 1950s.)
This girl accompanied Tom Musgrave, and her name, as mentioned by Tom, was said to be either Joy Erwin or Irvin. There was no surname given for the girl 'Jestyn'.
Stuart Littlemore, in his notes, described the discussions with Tom Musgrave and how he, Stuart, had followed up on both names with the RNSH; no match was found for either Joy or Jestyn as graduates or in the Register of Nurses. (An interesting aside is that Jess Harkness did not complete her training as a Nurse until the early 1950s.)
Littlemore Document part 1. Page 147:
False Claim Made By Steve H on CM Blog
https://ciphermysteries.com/2023/11/17/on-the-trail-of-dorothy-robertson#comment-540694
So, what do we have here? Two girls are accompanying two army officers on a chance meeting at the Clifton Gardens Hotel. Both girls were using false names or so it would appear.
This was at a time when Alf had been recalled from Brisbane to set up training at Rushcutters Bay, Alf set about recruiting various people at that time.
Knowing what we now know about Alf's copy of the Rubaiyat and the presence of microcode on both the inscription page and the title page in such a way that you could only describe that book, handed to Alf by Jestyn some 12 months after their first meeting on yet another happenstance occasion, as a training manual in concealment and code techniques.
This was at a time when Alf had been recalled from Brisbane to set up training at Rushcutters Bay, Alf set about recruiting various people at that time.
Knowing what we now know about Alf's copy of the Rubaiyat and the presence of microcode on both the inscription page and the title page in such a way that you could only describe that book, handed to Alf by Jestyn some 12 months after their first meeting on yet another happenstance occasion, as a training manual in concealment and code techniques.
ON THE SUBJECT OF NAMES
Another name, this time this name was found on the back of the recovered Rubaiyat of Omar Khayam, that name is KING. Posted this find back in 2016.
Here's the full post:
http://tamamshud.blogspot.com/2016/01/somerton-man-name-found-on-code-page.html#comment-form
Here's the full post:
http://tamamshud.blogspot.com/2016/01/somerton-man-name-found-on-code-page.html#comment-form
STEVE H. I note that you made a statement which was incorrect regarding the meeting between Musgrave, Boxall and the two nurses. It would seem that you jumped the gun by assuming the first piece of information that the first snippet of information that you came across in the Part 1 Littlemore document was all there was to be found. You will also note that Musgrave was single at the time and hadn't as far as I am aware even met his future wife. I have included the correct information I had found some 4.5 years ago in the above post. I am not having a cheap shot at you, we all make mistakes early on and I hope you accept this as it's meant.
ReplyDeleteThis is my 15th year researching and investigating this case and there are still things to be learned, thankfully, having certainly made mistakes early on in the piece, I make few nowadays down to a strict verification and substantiation process.
Just while we're on the topic. you also made comment about Constable Moss and the 'missing matches' issue. Can I respectfully suggest that you take a look at this wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_(Adelaide_newspaper)
It's about the Adelaide Truth newspaper which ran the story about Constable Moss. As you will read the publication had an unenviable reputation for printing libelous statements. It was for that reason that I gave it a miss, it was simply not a credible source of information plus, having been there as a police officer, I know how easy it is to miss an item of evidence which is why, in most cases where a body is concerned, it is searched twice. In the SM case it is not known exactly when the matches were discovered or by whom given that it was some weeks later that Det Sgt Leane became involved.
STEVE H.
ReplyDeleteThere is one definitive document being the Littlemore notes, within which Musgrave stated that at the time of the get together he was single. He then provided the names of two young nurses that attended including their descriptions. There is no mention of his wife. The interview with Musgrave was recorded by Stuart Littlemore. I do not give weight to comments made on the CM forum as being the final word on this or other matters. I check the documented facts. If you have documented evidence from that time then you should produce it.
Based on the Littlemore document, your statement remains incorrect.
JS, good find re Irvine, hadn’t thought of that. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteYet again G C, you dig out the truth and others hijack it. Personally I always find your approach more than interesting, you regularly find new and often crucial information about the case even after all these years. Keep up the good work.
ReplyDeleteJS seems like super sleuth missed Captain French, (George) served it up in plain sight not even hidden. It’s in the same document . WW1 navy man, rejoined for the second show Sergeant, then Lt, finally Captain in Alfs mob. What caught my eye was of course the ‘digs’ comment in Littlemore’s notes,. Apparently he did some WT training to add to his diesel skills. Wonder what else is in his tree? I’ll leave it to you JS, the sleuth’s still a bit wet behind the ears.
ReplyDeleteChurchill had a saying, well really ‘Chrchilian Quote’. He had a knack of finding the right words for many occasions: and this is one quote that I have pinned over my desk.:
ReplyDelete‘You’ll never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks’.
And so it is with the latest gathering of ‘barking dogs’ on on tyre blogs and forums. I guess they’ll just have to go and bark in someone else’s back yard now but in all fairness it did make me smile when one in particular performed his or is that her, Little tricks. I’ll raise a glass to you all this weekend, I have reason to celebrate :)