...SAPOL UPDATE:
In early December, SAPOL made public an update on the progress of the Forensic Analysis of the exhumed remains of the Somerton Man. The news came from SAPOL Media Section and was picked up on by Pete Bowes.
Essentially forensic work on the DNA has been completed as this excerpt below shows:
‘Since the exhumation of the remains of Somerton Man two years ago, SAPOL in partnership with the AFP and FSSA, has engaged with forensic specialists here, interstate, and overseas to assist in the identification process. The DNA work on the Somerton Man’s remains was recently completed with analysis of these results to be reported to the State Coroner in the final report along with completed Forensic Anthropology and Forensic Odontology reports, and results of some outstanding forensic analysis that will be completed soon.’
As is par for the course with the Somerton Man case, answers generate more questions. My eye was drawn to the following words:
1. 'SAPOL in partnership with the AFP and FSSA, have engaged with forensic specialists here, interstate and overseas to assist in the identification process.' :
The enlistment of local and interstate forensics specialists one can understand. But why overseas specialists? The options are that firstly, a preliminary identification may have been made and that identification is of a person from a country other than Australia, Secondly it could be that a specific problem with the examination arose and it needed an overseas specialist to help resolve it. It is also possible that they are referring to Astrea, the company that did the DNA analysis on the single hair sample provided by Professor Abbott which led to the Professor's claim that Carl Webb was the Somerton Man. The Professor used an engineering technique on the data provided by Astrea to arrive at his identification of the man as Carl Webb. The technique was 'imputation', here's an excerpt from an article on the subject:
This link provides further information and the article:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/mathematics/imputation-method#:~:text=Mean%20imputation%20(MI)%20is%20one,Jamshidian%20and%20Bentler%2C%201999).
3.1.3 Single imputation methods
In a single imputation method the missing data are filled by some means and the resulting completed data set is used for inference. Mean imputation (MI) is one such method in which the mean of the observed values for each variable is computed and the missing values for that variable are imputed by this mean. This method can lead into severely biased estimates even if data are MCAR (see, e.g., Jamshidian and Bentler, 1999). Clearly, if the number of missing values in a variable is large, and these values are imputed by the observed sample mean, then the resulting variance estimate for that variable can be severely underestimated.
This link provides further information and the article:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/mathematics/imputation-method#:~:text=Mean%20imputation%20(MI)%20is%20one,Jamshidian%20and%20Bentler%2C%201999).
2. The DNA work on the Somerton Man’s remains was recently completed with analysis of these results to be reported to the State Coroner in the final report along with completed Forensic Anthropology and Forensic Odontology reports, and results of some outstanding forensic analysis that will be completed soon.
Anthropologist Report: Through the established methods, a forensic anthropologist can aid law enforcement in establishing a profile of the unidentified remains. The profile includes sex, age, ancestry, height, length of time since death, and sometimes the evaluation of trauma observed on bones. This report whilst not specifically mentioning DNA does refer to the deceased’s ancestry. Note that the person’s age and height are also included. The height issue is of particular importance as the height of the Somerton Man was recorded at the time as being 5 feet 11 inches as measured on the mortuary slab. There is however a level of uncertainty regarding the height of the man Carl Webb who, it has been claimed' is the Somerton Man. A photograph that purportedly includes Carl Webb gives the impression that he was closer to the height of his brother, Roy Webb who, from his service record, stood at 5 feet inches in height. It should also be noted that both parents of Carl and Roy Webb were of quite short stature.
ODONTOLOGY REPORT: The forensic investigation should explain orodental findings in detail that can be used for identification (age, sex, ethnic group, and occupation if possible). The report must explain if the death could be due to trauma or any family or other violence that led to any injuries or trauma to the teeth, jaws, and any other oral and maxillofacial part. The possible causes should be given, too, if possible. The forensic odontology identification report should be understandable to a general audience (i.e., it should be written using layperson’s language.)
The Odontology and Anthropology reports are of course equally important with the aspect of the teeth being critical, it is the dental chart alone taken by Dr Dwyer at the autopsy that links the body of the man on the beach to the exhumed remains.
Perhaps what wasn't mentioned tells us more about the investigation. The press release specifically made mention of DNA specialists being either here in Australia or overseas. Given the significant amount of publicity surrounding the DNA discovery and the use of leading-edge technology, it seems unusual for a DNA specialist not to be specifically named but there could be a simple explanation for that.
I was hoping that there might've been some success with toxicology. Maybe that's the one they're waiting on?
ReplyDeleteThat’s a good point. I wonder what the half life is of the poison that killed the Somerton Man?
ReplyDeleteIn the message, they referred to the overseas involvement as being
‘Forensic’ and not specifically dna, that suggests they may not have been in touch with Astrea. Speaking of the message itself, odd isn’t it to not see any reference to the news in the press. I could have missed it of course. Hmmm.
Ethelyene glycol- Very easily available in any chemical shop. It is even used as anti freeze. This deadly osmotically active substance has a lethal dose of 60 ml. It can increase your osmolality and it can cause metabolic acidosis and it can lead to drag out of water from inside the cell. That leads intracellular dehydration. Metabolic acidosis means your blood PH is below the normal limit. Acidic blood impairs your glycolysis in cell and it can lead to hyperkalemia and then cardiac arrest after 3–4 hours. In USA, it is kniwn as one the most coy used murder weapon. Because to detect ethelyene glycol in blood , a forensic laboratory needs gas paper chromatography technique. Almost 80 percent of our forensic lab does not have it. Not only that it takes almost 30 days to get the proper investigation report. In the meantime, criminal can easily escape from his country. A good advantage is that ethelyene glycol is sweet in taste. Another good advantage is that you can mix this poison to alcholic brands like Whiskey, Vodka or Rum. Because alchol intoxication can also produce high osmolality in blood . It will distract your forensic doctor to establish the diagnosis.
DeleteCan you provide any links? In particular looking for instances of deliberate poisoning in the 1940s. I also see tat it causes convulsions and vomiting, is that correct?
DeleteYes it does cause vomiting, https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/ethylene-propylene-glycol/toxicological_effects.html https://ejfs.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s41935-021-00244-4 https://journals.lww.com/ccmjournal/citation/2020/01001/729__a_fatal_case_of_intentional_ethylene_glycol.692.aspx#:~:text=Introduction%2FHypothesis%3A%20Ethylene%20glycol%20(,in%20the%20US%20in%202017.
DeleteI was searching the web for 1940s cases but I couldn’t find any, but I live near a library and the have told me they have many books about cases of people succumbing to poisons, they might have ones from the era, I’m going to check it out so if I find anything insightful I’ll copy it down and post it!
DeleteI just spoke to an expert,he said he probably died before he could vomit, which explains why he had food remnants in his stomach when they performed the autopsy! I’m still looking into cases where this kind of poison was used on people during that time.
DeleteNot much crowing from Mr B
ReplyDeleteTaking up your theme Peter, in 1948 apart from high levels of influence from MI5, there was also an acknowledged presence in Australia of the OPC, a CIA initiative whose speciality was covert action. We then add to the mix the gathering of at least 15 Soviets PLUS LOCAL embassy staff at the Lapstone conference in the Blue Mountains, amongst those was Vitaly Pavlov, a known assassin.
ReplyDeleteBetween November 17th and December 13th in Australia, 3 men died under highly suspicious circumstances. Michael Goreloff in Sydney, the man on the beach at Somerton and just 35 minutes away in Hinkley Street, Adelaide Tibor Kaldor is found dead. Poison was the cause for the last two men and the 6 foot tall Mr Goreloff was found hanging from a 4 foot 6 inch high sapling. Michael and Tibor both left last letters, a tally a very short note in Michael’s case. In both those letters an acrostic coded name was found, DANETTA. In the case of the Somerton Man, the code page when configured as 7 lines each beginning with the letter M, that same 7 letter acrostic name, DANETTA, appears.
In Michael’s case his last note has 7 lines as does the first paragraph of Tibor Kaldor’s last letter.
Interestingly, Verse 70, the verse from the Rubaiyat written by the nurse Jestyn in the book she gave to Army Lieutenant Alf Boxall, also contains the acrostic code name DANETTA. In fact another death in 1945, that of George Marshall, the same code name DANETTA was found in verse 23 of the Rubaiyat which was found open on his chest . There are only 4 verses in the Rubaiyat that contain that name and two of them were found with dead men both of whom died of poisoning.
These are indisputable facts, they are there for anyone who would like to check them out, I will post the links shortly.
Peter, was Chillikin at Lapstone?
Chilikin arrived 19/11/1948 on a Qantas Constellation at Sydney Airport to work for the UN as a Russian interpreter at the ECAFE Lapstone conference.
DeleteThere's a coincidence
DeleteAs promised, here's the link that shows all the posts on the DANETTA code, they show the proof that the codeword existed in 4 cases of unusual deaths.
ReplyDeletehttps://tamamshud.blogspot.com/search?q=DANETTA
Wow! Very intriguing 4 deaths, same book and all 4 connected in some way, and 70plus years and still a mystery! And I also think SM is Pavel F.
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